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The thing that determines whether you stink or not is merely the ratio of your exertion level to your fat intake. More fat intake causes more production with sebaceous glands, which is actually fine as long as you are also sweating to clear them. More exertion clears your sebaceous glands. Increasing exertion will make you smell worse for a short period of time, but if you maintain it you'll smell much better.

Does sitting in a really hot bathtub for an hour (not scalding of course) or so do the trick? Or do the pores have to be exposed to open air.

Maj: Salmon is my favorite food. I have otherwise pretty oily skin... What I need is alot of UV, which I don't normally get. So I do things like drool over UV-transparent windows and have UV lamps in every room of my house and never, ever wear a hat unless it's noonday sun on a high V day.

So I really get to choose whether I slough otherwise healthy-looking skin, skin grows over my pores starting hives, or crusty flakes bubble up from my scalp, at times down my face and neck and on my torso and knees/elbows. It's gross. But UV is my big cure-all for it.

Hard to get enough UV in some spots on your body, though...

-Crissa

Yes, apparently the black sea and various fish can help psoriasis. However, the black sea does it by being so deep in the earth that the UV is filtered down to a high concentration of UVA rays and high humidity. The fish work by literally eating the excess skin, allowing the welts to heal. It doesn't work on the scalp, obviously. And who wants to keep flesh-eatin fish healthy and clean by changing their water daily?

Lago PARANOIA wrote:
Does sitting in a really hot bathtub for an hour (not scalding of course) or so do the trick? Or do the pores have to be exposed to open air.

Like most things in science: sweat is sweat. Saunas and hot tubs can in many ways mimic actual exercise.

eeuuugh wrote:Hahaha, the whole POINT of that haircut was that it had no name! At least I never shaved a dollar sign into my chest-hair, like some people. I don't believe any pictures survive.

You are just jealous because my chest is money.

-Username17

So the old saw about sweat clearing the toxins out is true.

Frank, you may have a lot more chest hair than I do, but you also are shameless enough to shave anything into your chest hair. I don't know if that is good, or bad.

God, I wish I had some chest hair.

I'm a hairless nerd. I barely even have armpit or facial hair; I just let it grow out as long as it gets and then try to primp it so it looks like more hair than is actually there.

One day, I shall grow the elusive copstache. But for now I'll have to settle for a reverse-Hitler. One day the two ships will crash in the night. Or something.

Like most things in science: sweat is sweat. Saunas and hot tubs can in many ways mimic actual exercise.

This sounds a little dubious to me, but that's only because I'm ignorant about the subject. Do go on.

Lago wrote:This sounds a little dubious to me, but that's only because I'm ignorant about the subject. Do go on.

The thing that makes athletes smell better than, for example, myself is the fact that their sweat comes out much more frequently than mine, which means that it doesn't have time to turn rancid before being excreted. If I spent a lot of time in saunas, I too could have my sweat run clean despite the fact that I am very sedentary and spend most of my time reading.

I wouldn't get any stronger or faster or anything. I wouldn't drop my 5-10 cm of gut that I'd like to lose, I'd just smell like an athlete.

-Username17

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eeuuugh wrote:seems to me that in general, when people eat a lot of animal fats, their skin and hair are greasier and smellier

I haven't found that to be true. [/quote]
I have, I eat alot of fatty food, especially meat, and have really greasy hair. I mean to the point where I don't understand people who can go a day without washing their hair. I have to shampoo every day, otherwise it's a mess.

My hair also really tangles, but I brush it out once a day, and it works for me. I've got about shoulder length hair, and it's pretty straight, except when wet, my ex loved the ringlets I would get when my hair was wet.
It's pretty thick, and fairly strong, though not to the point where I've broken combs.

I wash my beard with shampoo when I remember, which is getting to be rare as I'm now commonly complaining in my head about the weak water pressure.

When I was on my own I just used some cheap no name from the dollar store as far as shampoo went but I think it was to simple, it left my hair really dry. Now that I'm living with my parents again I'm using VO5.

frank wrote:Sweat doesn't stink. Indeed, human sweat smells so good that you can literally bottle it and sell it because it genuinely turns people on to smell it. What stinks is the bacteria that live and die in your pores. Bacteria which are washed out when you sweat to be exposed to the world. In short, what stinks to high hell is not sweating. You just don't know that you stink until the next time your pores pen up a bit.

The thing that determines whether you stink or not is merely the ratio of your exertion level to your fat intake. More fat intake causes more production with sebaceous glands, which is actually fine as long as you are also sweating to clear them. More exertion clears your sebaceous glands. Increasing exertion will make you smell worse for a short period of time, but if you maintain it you'll smell much better.

huh. I need to exert myself more so that I don't smell like roadkill in the summer... (I hate summers and this is one of the reasons. With my diet, when I sweat, I smell like rotting meat, with my clothing, when I go out somewhere, I sweat.)

Crissa wrote:Hard to get enough UV in some spots on your body, though...

I can imagine...

...don't tanning boths use UV?

Maj wrote:

eeuuugh wrote:seems to me that in general, when people eat a lot of animal fats, their skin and hair are greasier and smellier

I haven't found that to be true.

I swear it's not some weird vegan disgust/superiority complex. I first noticed it when I was 14 and my dad took me on a 5-day hippie river rafting thing where we weren't allowed to bring animal products. At first my hair was lank and gross, but at the end of the five days it felt and smelled fine. That was five years before my vegetarianism and seven before I turned vegan.

FrankTrollan wrote:You are just jealous because my chest is money.

"The root of all evil"

I started growing chest hair like six months ago. It's extremely sparse, you might say wispy if you felt like being cruel, and concentrated around my nipples. Definitely preferred being hairless... though not to the point of shaving.

yeah, nice hair isn't enough for me to cut meat, milk, eggs, butter and cheese out of my diet... I enjoy all of that too much, and there's too few vegan things I enjoy.

I think you've got an extra [/q uote] tag in your post.

Crissa wrote:What I need is alot of UV, which I don't normally get.

My brain immediately wants to know: Is Vitamin D a factor?

Prak Anima wrote:I have, I eat alot of fatty food, especially meat, and have really greasy hair. I mean to the point where I don't understand people who can go a day without washing their hair. I have to shampoo every day, otherwise it's a mess.

I would consider my diet pretty high in fat. I eat a lot of meat, though I do also eat piles and piles of fruit and vegetables. I don't really eat much in the grain department, though I do eat the occasional potato, but my sweat doesn't smell bad, nor is my hair particularly greasy. In fact, I leave my conditioner in to keep my hair moisturized.

I know other people who are the same way. As such, my conclusion is that there's a class of humanity that's broken, or that fat consumption alone isn't responsible.

eeuuugh wrote:5-day hippie river rafting thing

You said the H word. There are spades of vegan hippies living around here. They smell foul. To the point where I see dreadlocks, and I cross the street.

Maj wrote:

Crissa wrote:What I need is alot of UV, which I don't normally get.

My brain immediately wants to know: Is Vitamin D a factor?

I don't think so. I think it has to do with literally killing off skin cells at a certain rate so they'll slough off and not pile up, causing irritation, inflammation and more growth. Most connections with psoriasis (and modern medicines) are based upon managing with immunosuppressants.

-Crissa

Maj wrote:

eeuuugh wrote:5-day hippie river rafting thing

You said the H word. There are spades of vegan hippies living around here. They smell foul. To the point where I see dreadlocks, and I cross the street.

The ex-girlfriend from whom I acquired my veganism is vegan because she was a punk when she was a teenager, so genealogically, I'm the other type of vegan... Never been a punk or a hippie though. My dad used to be a hippie, but I draw a distinction between baggy shorts & dreadlocks hippies, and long hair & work jeans hippies... He's definitely the latter. No reggae, raises chickens, don't think he's ever been vegetarian, even.

Hippies and I tend to not get along. We both agree that violence is not the answer. I just believe that violence is the question, and the answer is yes.

Violence is an answer. The last answer, but still an answer.

I tend to get along with most people. Until I start talking too much.

eeuuugh wrote: I swear it's not some weird vegan disgust/superiority complex. I first noticed it when I was 14 and my dad took me on a 5-day hippie river rafting thing where we weren't allowed to bring animal products. At first my hair was lank and gross, but at the end of the five days it felt and smelled fine.

This anecdote sounds true to me, but the relevant control would be not doing 5 days of fucking river rafting, rather than the meat eating thing. People who do 5 days of cycling, or 5 days of hiking, or 5 days of river rafting, or really anything like that for five days have their sweat smell pretty damn good by the end. This is regardless of whether their rations are made from peanuts or beef jerky.

-Username17